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Something Good is Going to Happen to You

Randy R Potts

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February 12, 2012

I was twelve years old when it happened, in the 7th grade, attending Victory Christian School on 71st Street in South Tulsa. My grandfather, Oral Roberts, climbed up into a tower and began telling the world on national television that God had commanded him to bring in eight million dollars to further his work on Earth. If he didn’t come up with the cash, the Lord, my grandfather said, would take him home.

I was twelve years old and, in the world I was living in, this wasn’t as unusual as you might expect. There was a rhyme and reason to everything in God’s world–if you had a question, the Bible always had the answer. So when my grandfather climbed into that tower, I randomly opened the Bible for guidance and my fingers landed on this passage from the book of Isaiah:

Behold, I have given him for a witness to the people, a leader
and commander to the people. Behold, thou shalt call a nation
that thou knowest not, and nations that knew not thee shall run
unto thee because of the Lord thy God, and for the Holy One of
Israel; for he hath glorified thee.

I was twelve years old, and this tower business didn’t really make sense, but then again, there was that passage from Isaiah, with God seeming to speak directly to me.

At night I had dreams that the eight million dollars in donations wouldn’t come in, and my grandfather would be taken up to heaven in a fiery chariot like Ezekiel, another Old Testament favorite of mine. Once at school I overheard two teachers talking about how Oral was a Cherokee Indian, and how it was a longstanding tradition among Indian chiefs to declare the day of their death as a way to get the tribe to do something drastic it didn’t want to do, and the teachers said that if the tribe didn’t cooperate, the chief literally fell over and died on the promised day. Turns out there is no such tradition, but even so, I imagined my grandfather, who at 70 years of age, with his long-hanging ears and bulbous, impressive nose really did look the part of an Indian chief, sitting up there in the Prayer Tower one day and suddenly expiring on his prayer rug. I imagined a lot of things, all far-fetched seeming now, but at the time completely in line with the culture I lived in, a culture in many ways shaped by the teachings of my grandfather.

Oral began “preaching the Word” in the late 1930s as a nineteen-year-old during the Great Depression–my grandmother Evelyn told me that food was often scarce, and Oral would sometimes go out and shoot “swamp rabbits” which she would then dutifully clean and bring downtown where you could rent communal freezer space. Oral’s ministry grew slowly, reaching its prime in the sixties and seventies when he built Oral Roberts University and pioneered the “electric church,” becoming the first television evangelist. His television programs came out of studios in Burbank, California, and his message was simple, and contrary, to what priests and preachers had been telling us for thousands of years: God, according to Oral, wasn’t very interested in punishing us. In fact, God was just dying to heal us. All we needed to do was stretch out our hands in faith and believe, and God would bring healing. Healing to our bodies, healing to our marriage, healing to our loved ones and, yup, healing to our pocketbooks. It was a revolutionary message and one that hadn’t really been heard before in quite the same way.

“God is a GOOD God,” Oral intoned on national television. “Something GOOD is GOING to HAPPEN to YOU!”

By January of 1987, when Oral climbed into that tower, donations had been falling off for years. The fall of Jim Bakker, the fall of Jimmy Swaggart, and the failure of the City of Faith, Oral’s 60-story hospital complex (much of it still sits empty today, 23 years later) were all part of the reason for the decline in revenue, as well as an ebb in popularity for the brand of televangelism Oral helped create. His efforts to bring in the money to keep his empire afloat became more and more ridiculous, but he continued using that feel-good phrase, “Something GOOD is GOING to HAPPEN to YOU!”

Even now, as a 35-year-old gay man whose church and family has rejected him, I can see the appeal in those words. “Hope is the thing with feathers,” Emily Dickinson once wrote, “that perches in the soul, and sings the tune–without the words, and never stops at all.” These days selling hope is a well-worn path, and Barack Obama, for whom my grandfather voted, inspired the nation by blanketing walls and subway stations and billboards with this one powerful word. It’s surprising, I’m sure, that Oral voted for Obama, but given a choice between a man selling fear–fear of nuclear weapons, fear of the black man, fear of change, fear of Muslims, fear of a bright, sunny future–and a man who simply said “Yes, We Can,” it must have been an easy choice for Granville Oral Roberts, who grew up in a shotgun shack in an impoverished corner of Oklahoma. He ended up building a 500-acre kingdom on the banks of the Arkansas River, a kingdom funded by faith, and faith alone. “Something GOOD is GOING to HAPPEN to YOU!”

But I digress. I’m not 35, an out-of-the-closet gay writer happily raising his kids in Dallas, Texas; nope, I’m just twelve years old, and my grandfather just climbed into a 200-foot-tall tower, and the whole city of Tulsa, Oklahoma, and the evangelical reaches of the entire world (which numbers, perhaps, in the hundreds of millions) were holding their collective breath awaiting the outcome. And me? I wasn’t so worried about Oral. I figured either he would get the money and come down, or he wouldn’t and God would take him to Heaven–either way, if you believed the hype, it was a win-win situation. When you’re twelve, you buy just about everything your family tells you, so I really didn’t worry much at all. About Oral, that is.

What I did worry about, and continued to worry about for at least the next 15 years, was the condition of my soul. While everybody else was worrying about Oral, I was worried that Jesus would come down, perched on a cloud in the sky, and whisk all the Christians up to Heaven in “the twinkling of an eye,” as the Bible says. Like the title of the popular evangelical novel blares loudly from its cover, I was worried about being Left Behind.

Why choose 1987 to start worrying about the rapture? It wasn’t, after all, until 1989 that Oral first said Jesus was coming back and the world was going to end, when I was in ninth grade attending Jenks High School. Nineteen eighty-seven made sense because Oral was up in that tower, and that tower, for me, was a symbol of the Second Coming of Christ, and this is exactly how Oral planned it. The Prayer Tower was built, along with most of the other buildings on the Oral Roberts University campus, in the late 1960s as a symbol of hope. At that time, on college campuses across the nation, students were sitting in groups by the thousands, smoking pot, drinking, swearing, having sex, wearing their hair long, and spending a lot of time saying “No!” to The Man.

Parents were scared, and Oral had an idea: why not build an evangelical university, where the students keep their hair short, their faces shaved, and their skirts long, and rather than saying “No!” are instead taught to say “Yes!” to the calling of God on their hearts? And in the middle of this campus, why not build a tower, constructed in such a way that, from any angle, it represents the image of the cross? In this tower he installed two things: a phone bank manned by faithful, little old ladies who would answer your call, day or night and pray with you on a toll-free number; and a gas flame, installed on the top of the tower, manned at all times, day and night, by a born-again Christian whose heart was “right with God.”

This tower became the focus of my fear of the rapture. In 1987 I had a dog, a scruffy, old, monstrously-huge Irish Wolfhound, the kind of dog you see in movies about medieval England sitting calmly at the foot of the king in his castle. His name was Samson, and because he was such a big dog, I had to take him on a long walk every day or he would go stir-crazy and eat the cushions off our couch. We were living on the Oral Roberts compound off of 75th Street, in South Tulsa, just north of Lewis Avenue, a three-acre piece of land surrounded by an eight-foot stockade fence and a chain-link topped with barbed wire and electrified. I would walk down my 50-yard-long driveway, out the first gate, and out the second gate (always waving to the security guard in his little hut) and across 75th Street to the campus of ORU. There was another gate, and as soon as Samson and I went through, there was the Prayer Tower in the distance, that gas flame shining brightly on the top.

Or, at least, I hoped it was. On bright, sunny days it was almost impossible to tell, and that’s where the fear crept in. The whole point of having that gas flame manned by a born-again Christian whose heart was “right with God” was this: if Jesus were to come down, perched on a cloud, and whisk away all the born-again Christians (the Catholics, and probably even the Episcopalians, were not really included in this group), that gas-flame operator would also be whisked away, and the flame would go out. That flame, perched on top of a 200-foot tower at the center of campus was both a promise and a threat–Jesus is coming back, but he’s not here yet, so if you’ve sinned, get your heart right with God, because He might come at any moment.

Well, how do you know if your heart is right with God? Even at 35, I still haven’t figured that one out.

So while everyone else was worried about Oral in that tower, I was worried about that gas-flame operator, looking every day to see if the flame was still there. On weekends, the campus could be awfully still and quiet, and if the sun was at just the right angle and I couldn’t quite tell if the flame was still lit, chills would go down my spine. In fact, sitting here writing this, they still do. Some things just don’t go away. I’m not scared of the rapture anymore, or the boogie man, or going to hell because I’m gay, but some nights when the house is too quiet I almost wish there were a tower across the street to remind me that all is well.

I was twelve, my grandfather was in a tower, and I was worried about the rapture, but I was also a seventh-grade gay kid in an evangelical Christian middle school, trying my best to develop crushes on girls. There was one girl I asked out every single day for a month and she said no every time, until it became a sort of joke and I asked her the way I scratched my nose, that is, quickly and sharply. And why did I ask her every day? Because my best friend at the time, a boy I haven’t seen since 1988 but still remember his full name and telephone number (918-528-0897), had kissed this girl. I think I was hoping that, if I kissed her too, I would somehow get some of his germs. Or something like that. None of this was conscious, but looking back it’s the only way I can make sense of it. Because, looking back, while I romanced the girls I ended up being nothing but a pest, stealing their lunch bags, undoing their bra as a joke, etc.–all I was really interested in were boys.

In seventh grade, I went through a series of crushes on boys, five of them to be exact, each one more painful than the one before. I would fall for them, spend a lot of time around them, and then, realizing eventually that they would never feel for me the way I felt for them, would suddenly stop talking to them. The last of the five, in April of 1987, called me up, mad as a hornet, asking why I wouldn’t talk to him anymore. “You just go through boys like Kleenex,” he said, “you blow your nose on them and throw them away.” Neither of us understood what the hell he was talking about, not literally, but we both knew he was right. I swallowed, hard, and quickly hung up. I swore off boys then and there, and didn’t really have close friends (other than girls) for a long, long time.

When I was 18, I met a girl the first week I arrived at the University of Oklahoma, and she reminded me of my grandmother Evelyn–graceful, witty, intelligent, and always free to say exactly what was on her mind. I told her I liked men, but that I didn’t want to be with one, which was exactly how I felt about things at the time. Two years later we were married. Six years later we had our first daughter on Father’s Day, and five years after that, after having three kids and trying our best to build the perfect little picket-fence family, we were divorced after 11 years of marriage. I cried, for at least a year and a half, at this great, great loss.

There was nothing I wanted more on earth than to give my children a loving, happy, stable home comprised of a Mommy and a Daddy and a dog and a garden and the whole nine yards. But like in Toni Morrison’s novel Beloved, sometimes in a relationship between two people a ghost from the past intervenes, and starts shaking things up, and sometimes in the aftermath there’s nothing left but a wrecked marriage and a chance to start all over again.

There were several ghosts that wrecked our marriage, things that happened in the Pentecostal compound I grew up in that came back to haunt me, and one of them was the ghost of a man who shot himself in 1982. That ghost would be the presence, in my mind, of my uncle, Ronald David Roberts, Oral’s eldest son, and at one time the man Oral had hoped would inherit his kingdom. “Ronnie” to the family, he was, by all accounts, one of the most brilliant men anyone who came across his path had ever met; at Booker T. High School he taught English as well as Russian and Chinese. Nancy McDonald, who worked with him at the time, told me he was not only one of the brightest teachers she had ever met but also one of the most loved by his students. In his mid-thirties, Uncle Ronnie was divorced and committed suicide soon thereafter, six months after coming out to Troy Perry, founder of the first gay-friendly congregation in Los Angeles, and four months after he was arraigned in court on prescription drug charges–leaving his two children, ex-wife, and extended family to bear an unbearable burden.

Growing up, I didn’t know any of this about my uncle, but I always wanted to be like him. Every time my mother mentioned him I noted two things: one, that she had loved him more than she had ever loved anybody else; and two, that the memory of his path brought more pain to her than any other memory.

I suppose it makes sense I wanted to be like him. I didn’t know, when I was a kid, that the “path” my mother said brought him down consisted of being gay, intellectual, and godless. All I knew was, I wanted my mother’s eyes to light up like that when she talked about me. Having ended up on this same “path” (gay, intellectual, godless), her eyes don’t light up anymore, and haven’t in years–for the last five, at least. And that’s a shame, because I really do think that if she got along with Uncle Ronnie she could find a way to get along with me. But we were talking about ghosts. The first time the ghost of my Uncle Ronnie entered my life was in the Spring of 2002, at Mayflower United Church of Christ in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma.

My wife and I were in transition–having both rejected our Evangelical past, we were trying to find a way to still be Christian but also true to our intellect, and we found ourselves attending Robin Meyers’ church, Mayflower. We were there when Carlton Pearson, founder of Higher Dimensions (at one time one of the largest evangelical churches in the nation), came to speak to our liberal, almost-Unitarian Christian church. My family and I had attended Carlton’s church in middle school and high school and, in fact, my parents went to Oral Roberts University with him in the early 1970s. At one time, Oral had publicly referred to Carlton as his son, so you might say he felt like an uncle to me, even though I hadn’t seen him in years.

Carlton preached an amazing sermon that day, one that brought me to tears. Hearing him was like hearing my grandfather all over again. Here was a man who, instead of preaching that God was sending gays, and communists, and Catholics to Hell, said there was no Hell, and no mean, angry God dying to punish us. He might as well have said “GOD is a GOOD GOD” or “Something GOOD is GOING to HAPPEN to YOU!” I had finally admitted to myself a year before that I was homosexual, but being gay, Christian, and married with children does not give you many good options. During that year I had often wished I would die, but Carlton’s message gave me hope.

After the sermon, my wife and I waited in line to get a chance to talk to Carlton. It had been a long time since we’d seen each other – I probably hadn’t been to his church since I was 15 or 16, and here I was a full-grown man of 28 with his own children in tow. We waited about ten minutes as Carlton greeted each person who wanted to tell him how much his sermon moved him, and finally there we were, my wife and I, standing about three feet directly in front of Carlton. I smiled, big, and moved as if to hug him, but his face darkened immediately, and I hung back, and a chill passed through my spine. We might have only stood there for 20 seconds, but it felt like an hour – me looking at Carlton with a silly grin pasted on my face, and him looking back at me like he’d seen a ghost. He clutched his Bible tightly and his face went white, as white, anyway, as a black man’s face can go.

“Which one are you?” he finally asked, barely breathing, still looking scared. After another long pause, he said “You’re Ron and Roberta’s son, aren’t you?” and I nodded, “I’m Randy,” I said.” He nodded back. “I thought you were Ronnie,” he said. And we both stared at each other, and then, finally, hugged. It was a big bear hug, a reunion of sorts, and we were both misty-eyed as we talked that day.

Sometimes, a particular mantle is thrust upon you, whether you like it or not. My grandfather, with all his faults, was at heart a man who wanted to spread a message of hope. While it’s likely that many of the decisions he made later in life were motivated by money or at least the desire to keep his ministry afloat, it’s not my impression that’s what he was thinking when he was 20, 21, 22 years old and standing in healing lines and touching, for hours upon hours, people with tuberculosis and cerebral palsy and cancer. It’s not my impression that he started out to make a quick buck. Oral started out as a preacher, in tiny towns in southeastern Oklahoma, convinced that the mantle thrust upon him was to encourage the poor Pentecostals around him that God was a good God, that God did not want them to be poor, that God did not bring on diseases (as some evangelicals have suggested that God brought HIV to kill off gay men). Oral’s mantle was one he felt thrust upon him, and his message of hope transformed the evangelical church.

A year ago I took my children to Los Angeles for Spring Break; for them it was a chance to go to Disney World, to Universal Studios, and to see movie stars, but for me it was a chance to pay my last respects to a man who had overshadowed almost every memory from my childhood. Oral spent the last 20 years of his life living in a home on a golf course in Newport Beach, California, and while this sounds ostentatious, his home was fairly simple, a 1,000 square-foot condominium, the dining room table covered in water rings, the living room small and cramped, and the sixty-year-old home smelling vaguely of mold. I hadn’t spent more than five minutes with him in the previous ten years, and a man changes a lot from 81 to 91. I felt sorry for him. Without my grandmother by his side, he seemed lonely.

Oral never could remember my name when I was growing up; even though I lived just down the hill from him and ran up to see my grandmother several times a week, “boy” and “son” were the only things he ever called me, if he called me at all. But in the Spring of 2009 he eagerly played at great-grandfather, showing off that he had done his homework by greeting each of my three children by name, and, because he was no longer the scary grandfather I remembered but, instead, a 91-year-old man barely able to hear and completely unable to leave his chair without assistance, I gladly played along. Although we never spoke of it, Oral knew I was gay, and yet that day, it didn’t seem to matter–he signed a copy of his newest book for my children and gave them each a twenty dollar bill, and our hour-long visit passed quickly.

I’m grateful for that afternoon with my grandfather because, frankly, the man I grew up with in the compound was not a kind, warm grandfather. He was a driven man, one who slept four hours a night and the other twenty working. Even while “relaxing” on the golf course, Oral would be processing his next sermon in his mind or networking with business partners who might be able to help keep his ministry alive. There was always another tower to build, or another tower to climb up into; that mantle burdened his soul and there was never any time for children. But this day was different. Oral seemed at peace, happy to sit in his armchair and play great-grandfather.

He looked at me several times during that visit and sighed, and I almost felt that he was looking right through me. Before we left he asked me to come over to his chair; the children were watching a cartoon in the spare bedroom and the living room was quiet as I knelt down beside him and held his hand. Oral had large hands–the 60-foot bronze sculpture of hands clasped in prayer which stands at the entrance to the university are modeled after his–and I noticed that day that they also looked a lot like mine. I was a little shaken up–we both knew this was likely to be our last visit. As I stood up to leave, he held my hand tightly, looked up from his chair with that characteristic twinkle in his eye, and said “Son, something GOOD is GOING to HAPPEN to YOU!”

Note: This article was originally published May 25, 2010

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  • GlobeScout

    Powerful story Randy – thanks for telling it so eloquently! Looking forward to your book. Just wish your uncle could be with us today, enjoying a second chance to this incredible gift we have of life and the pursuit of happiness.
    A fellow PK/MK here.

  • Jana

    I live in Tulsa and have always shyed away from the University because it was a place that did not respect the values that I hold dear. I am sorry to know that growing up was not a place of respect and value for who you are. I am so very pleased to read your story and to know that you are right with who you are. This is how I attest that we are children of God.

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    Good stuff man; you are really applying yourself and it shows. Hope all is good in your orbit.

  • jake

    Randy, I am surprised that Oral didn’t charge you money to tell you that “something good will happen to you.”

    Ironically, if there is a devil, then your grandfather was certainly his servant as the maestro and patriarch of the prosperity ministery. There is no telling how much money your grandfather and those that modeled ministries after him have taken from the poor and sick, disgusting.

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    Very well written.

  • Jerry

    Very interesting insight into the family and your life then and now. I’ve been in Tulsa for many years and came to have less and less respect for Oral as the years passed. It’s so very, very sad that many Christians use the faith as a weapon and turn their back on anyone, especially their own. They talk the talk but fail to walk the walk. Best wishes for a happy life ahead.

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    I am a writer, living in Palm Springs, a retired screenplay writer, who is now writing novels. One I wrote entitled CONTESSA; would be of extreme help for you in finding threads to cover in your book. It is available on amazon.com or any other outlet. I am gay and in CONTESSA I cover the subject of happiness over suicide. It is not a Pollyanna book but based on a lot of research–and it is a heartwarming book. I would be complimented if you would check it out. You can find more about me and my work at http://www.jackfitzgerld.com. My very best to you, Jack Fitzgerald. It would be very nice to hear back from you.

  • Brandon

    I feel like someone finally understands. A wonderful read. Painful too as it brought back some difficult memories. I look forward to an entire book if one comes out.

  • Van Eden

    I enjoyed your piece. Very sincere and honest. Thanks for supporting the paper. Van

  • http://anecdotes.typepad.com Kathy

    Randy,
    What an eloquently written story. And, thank you for your honesty…how refreshing !
    I grew up in SE Oklahoma north of Antlers…in the boonies, as we described the area then.
    My best friend was Peggy. Her dad had a small “knot” on the side of his neck that continued to grow and eventually was diagnosed as cancer. The doctors did all they could do and finally told the family he didn’t have long to live.
    It was decided that they would take Peggy’s dad to Oral Roberts to be healed. Her two sisters, brother, mom, and many friends were convinced this was the answer. Because the family ran a small farming operation, this meant that they had to find people to feed the horses, cows, chickens…watch over the crops, etc. And also, it would not be cheap to make the trip to visit your grandfather, combined with the donation that was to be made for this “healing.”
    Because I was young, the details are a bit blurry, but I do remember when the family returned how excited everyone was that Peggy’s dad had been healed. He died a week later.
    Needless to say, that made a huge impact on me. I was taken to church every Sunday morning, Sunday night, and Wednesday night for as long as I can remember…married and continued to do the same with my children.
    I wish I had those hours back sitting in that church house and instead, have been sitting outside enjoying the day that was passing me by.
    As an almost 60 year-old mother and grandmother, I still feel the need to apologize to my parents who both passed many years ago, for not buying into their organized religious beliefs.
    Thank you for taking the time to share this and just know that something GOOD is GOING to HAPPEN to YOU, today…and everyday.

  • Chriss Zimmerman

    I loved what you wrote so far. I look forward to reading your book, too. I have read all of Oral’s books as well as His Darling Wife Evelyn. Oral was a VOICE with God’s call upon his life. I also have read Troy Perry’s books. As a gay United Methodist Evangelical & Charismatic believer, I have a great respect for the call upon Pentecostal’s lives with signs and wonders following. Oral was one I dearly respect. So with eagerness I look forward to your book. God Bless. Agape Chriss Zimmerman

  • Jason

    My heart goes out to you. Although your family had more celebrity, I share a similar experience with your story. I too grew up in an extremely Fundamentalist church family, where my dad was a church pastor/elder for over 30 years and I knew families in congregations 100 miles away.
    The day I decided to come out to my family (less than a year and a half ago) that all changed. Although I have been shunned by my immediate family and have had no communication with them since, at 34 years old I was reborn in so many ways – physically, emotionally and definitely spiritually.
    Today I feel God’s presence so much in my life and know that I would have followed the path of your dear Uncle, if I had stayed in that life.
    Thank you for you story, and I hope that others can feel your passion.

  • Mark

    As a gay man who attended ORU in the mid-eighties, this really resonates, Randy. Very much looking forward to reading more of your story! Deep thanks for sharing. M

  • http://www.calpreece.us Cal Preece

    Randy, thanks for sharing this. Your Grandfather provided spiritual guidance for my Grandmother when I was a tween on television and it influenced her view of life. A number of her grandchildren, my cousins, and I are better persons because Oral was a part of her life. And a number of us are gay, living successful lives because we found spiritual nourishment, like you in less restrictive Christian environments who accept that God made us. Good luck to you. Thanks for sharing this. Something GOOD is going to happen to us all.

  • http://www.transfigurationchurch.org Jason Samuel

    I attended Oral Roberts University from 1981-1985. This is such a moving piece – thank you so much for your honesty, integrity and courage. I am a gay man, who also happens to be an Episcopal Priest. God is good, and the fear people work so hard to spread will not win. Again, thank you for sharing your story and we continue to celebrate to love of God for ALL God’s children.

  • Holly

    Thank you for sharing this personal story.
    I know just about all the characters in you story,
    and was very fond of your grandparents (Oral and my
    dad were close friends). I, too, am a liberal, and liberated
    Christian, and know the struggle of breaking away from
    fundamentalism. God bless you in this life, and give you
    strength to live your truth with courage and joy.
    Holly Holder

  • http://alifeofunlearning.blogspot.com/ Anthony Venn-Brown

    Very very powerful Randy……I remember your Grandfather well from my early days as a Christian. When I was a high profile preacher here in Australia I used to take ministers on church study tours to the US and always made sure ORU was on the itinerary……..looking forward to hearing more from you. I will post this on the freedom 2 b[e] site.

    We have seen some amazing breakthroughs here in australia regarding pentecostals and LGBT people….still a long way to go though.

    Anthony Venn-Brown
    An Ambassador for the LGBT Community
    Award winning author of ‘A Life of Unlearning – A Journey to Find the Truth’
    Co-convenor of Freedom 2 b[e]
    Honoured to be on the 2007 & 2009 list of the 25 Most Influential Gay & Lesbian Australians
    “The enemy is ignorance”
    “My morality is a choice, my sexual orientation however isn’t’
    ‘When we choose to live authentically, we chip away at others’ prisons of pretend’

  • Brian O’Dell

    Really interesting and well-written remembrance of growing up. I really look forward to your book.

  • John

    Interesting but need to reed a few times. I tried to change in a straight man. (28 years) now I question or that is needed. Love to read your book

  • Cory

    I too want to read the book. Yours is one of the many stories that will eventually create an avalanche within the Christian community. There is a profound need for truth-telling, about the lives lost, destroyed, and denied full expression in the name of Christ. All based upon a warped, exclusive version of the Gospel message, which is propped up to justify homophobia that is rampant in the Church. It is the true abomination, I believe. Telling people that they are not beloved of God. Regardless of who they are.

    I was an alumnus and prominent campus leader at ORU in the late 80s, early 90s. I like you, have waited until later in my life to step out and share my true self with family and friends. It has been liberating and healing. I pray the same for you and all who read your words. I pray that the blessing you received from your grandfather, that day in California, would grow deep roots in your soul and that you would know EVERY day that you are loved by God, and that there is a wonderful life ahead for you, as you live it out in authenticity and in truth.

    Many blessings to you and your family, as you continue on your journey!

  • Bruce Price

    Randy,
    Your honesty is very moving. I attended and taught at ORU in 1980′s and knew your cousin Marsha. She gave me some insight into the family and it is interesting to hear your experience. While at ORU, I was struggling with being gay and as I came to terms with being gay and accepted who I was; I realized that I had to leave ORU, a place I had grown to love very much. Almost immediately upon leaving ORU, but still living in Tulsa, I was outed and 96% of my ORU family rejected me and stopped all communication. I look forward to reading your book.
    May ALL THINGS Good Happen to YOU!

  • Ben in Oakland

    Jason– the purpose of ANY relationship– with god, dog, or man– is to make your life better. If it’s not going to make your life better, then it is better not to be in that relationship.

    I realized a long time ago that my family was toxic in so many ways. Coming out to my parents brought their toxicity into sharp relief. I eventually realized that the problem was not my being gay, the problem was our whole relationship. Once I understood that, I was free.

    I could have been the emotional wreck that my brothers were. Instead, I have grown to be a loving, kind, considerate, and strong man. I have a huge number of good to wonderful friends, most of whom consider me to be the sanest and wisest person they know. At nearly 60, I know that my being gay provided me with the lens that I needed to see the world. I wouldn’t change anything.

  • http://www.markzonder.com/ Amy

    Thank you for sharing this personal story.
    I know just about all the characters in you story,
    and was very fond of your grandparents (Oral and my
    dad were close friends). I, too, am a liberal, and liberated
    Christian, and know the struggle of breaking away from
    fundamentalism. God bless you in this life, and give you
    strength to live your truth with courage and joy.
    Holly Holder

  • http://www.djfree.blogspot.com Darren

    Wow, Randy. Great article! So much of that resonated with me. I’m a 30 year old PK who grew up in an Evangelical home, and came out of the closet at 22. What painful, painful years those were (still are to some extend, but I’ve come a long way). I love how you are able to maintain a grasp on your grandfather’s humanity and recognize that beneath all of the mess, he had a good heart and did some good things in the world. May those who come after us be able to say the same of us when we’re gone. God bless you in your journey!

  • Joe Allen Doty

    My history with ORU began at the 1st College and Youth Seminar held on the campus when there was only 3 buildings there in June 1963. I was a student at Northeastern at the time. I have no idea why I was even invited to attend nor did my folks. I just knew a number of people who worked for OREA and attended Carbondale Assembly of God. I wasn’t even going to church there when I was at home. Ronald Roberts was even introduced by his father and we were told that Ronald would take his place when he retired from ORU.

    I was a substitute teacher in the Tulsa Public Schools for two non-consecutive years in the 1970s. I met Ronald at BTW when I taught languages there and I was even a sub for Ronald, too.

    I attended ORU as a graduate Theology student during the school terms of 1975 through 1978. I was in denial of my sexual orientation and even dated regulary, hoping to find a wife to marry which would be necessary for what I planned to do at a later time.

    I moved to the LA area in March 1984 and on April 1, I attended MCC Los Angeles with some new gay friends. One of the pastoral staff who spoke that day was an ORU. grad. The Lord actually was involved in getting me out of Oklahoma to get me completely out of the closet in my daily life. I won’t take time to write how that happened. I stayed with a church pastor who had earned an MDiv from ORU and was in denial of his own sexual orientation. But, I did out myself to him indirectly because of telling him about going to MCCLA instead of his church in Hollywood that particular morning.

    I also made friends with openly gay people who worked with the entertainment industry after I moved up to North Hollywood. The Lord was in that move, too. Openly gay people in the LA Metro area knew about Ronnie going with his parents when they taped shows at the NBC-TV studios in Burbank. He would take time away from them and go to gay clubs out there.

    I did read Troy Perry’s book where he told about meeting Ronnie at the MCC Tulsa when Alice Jones was the pastor there.

    I moved back to Tulsa in 1992 and being completely out of the closet, I started attending Family of Faith MCC. The assistant pastor was an ORU Grad and she had dated a guy who lived on the same wing I did for 4 semesters and she was even going to marry him. But, he married someone else and let the closet years later, too.

    I was a member of the legally organized yet unofficial ORU gay and lesbian alumni group, ORU-OUT, for a while beginning in 2000. I was even in the Pride Parade with some of the Group in June 2001. We won the top trophy. But, ORU-OUT has ceased to exist.

    There were quite a few out of the closet folks on the email update list whom I knew when I went to ORU. One of them had even stayed with the same pastor for 6 weeks in Hollywood,too.

    I am not attending any church right now due to disabilities; but, in 2008, I outed myself to the current pastor of the church I had belonged when I went to ORU and was still a member in March 1984. I had already outed myself to the pastor of Carbondale AG back in 1990. He had no problem with my sexual orientation and even after I moved back to Tulsa, he had his church pray for those I saw while being involved in AIDS Ministry. Mom had tapes of those services where he mentioned my name and the prayer requests.

    After my parents found out that I was gay, Dad told Mom, “That’s okay, I still love him.” My parents’ unconditional love never changed one bit. While they never met Ed, my partner for almost 7 years, they talked to him on the phone and accepted him as part of the family. Mom even called Ed when she knew I was at work.

  • http://www.rayboltzblog.wordpress.com Ray Boltz

    Randy,
    That was a beautiful article. You convey the the humanity of your grandfather but you also convey his heart. I’m proud of you and I wish you the best.
    Ray Boltz

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  • http://www.throughthestorm.wordpress.com wjc

    Thanks for sharing your story with us.

  • acw

    Randy,

    Your story is well told in such an eloquently voice.

    ACW

  • GrantJM

    Thank you so much for sharing. It is strangely a story paralleling many others’ stories. Mine is very similar, just a couple decades longer….

  • GLD

    You’ve moved me to tears.
    Thank you so much for sharing your story.

  • Lindsay M

    Beautifully written. Thanks for providing insight to ORU and your family that very few people have. As an ORU grad, I’ve learned a lot from your grandfather’s life of what not to do, but overall, I think he genuinely loved God and loved people.

    I’m very sad to hear that your family has disowned you. I hope you have found a family of friends that embrace you for who you are. Something good is going to happen to you:-)

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  • Sandra L. Mesnard England

    Hi Randy. I have wondered about you off and on in the past 18 years since I graduated; You always stood out as one of the nicest people in our school. I cried as I read this story and I cried even more when I watched the video of your letter to your Uncle Ronnie. My baby brother is gay and I well remember my parents and grandparents reactions to finding this out when he was 17. Not good, obviously. He has always laughed over my reaction though. I was living in Kellyville so he felt the need to call and tell me before anyone else did after my parents found out. He called and asked me to sit down because he had something to tell me, to which I told him to just spit it out. He took a deep breath and said, “I’m gay.” LOL, I said, “And”? He was shocked that I wasn’t either surprised or angry. There have been times when I wished for him to not be gay – but only because it would have made his life easier. However, I’m proud of him for standing up for his beliefs, for never backing down and giving in, for never doing what would have been so much easier. I’m so proud to have known you, so proud of who you have become. Hope to read more!
    Best wishes and God bless,
    Sandra (Mesnard) England
    Jenks High School, Class of ’92

  • http://globewriter.wordpress.com/2010/10/28/televangelist-oral-roberts-gay-grandson-says-it-gets-better/ Televangelist Oral Roberts’ gay grandson says “it gets better” « Globewriter's Weblog

    [...] another article written about his life and his relationship with his grandfather by Potts [...]

  • FunBeachGuy

    Thank you Randy for such a beautiful story!

    I remember watching your uncle’s Sunday show in the morning after I had dressed for church and waited for my my mom and sisters. I would turn on the TV and there he was with such “Up With People” attitude. I was even thinking of attending ORU, but something told me, don’t.

    My famliy attended an Assembly of God church in TX and so it was easy to watch Oral Roberts TV church show. I never went through the pain you did. Part of it was that my family and I never became members of our church because of their stance on dancing, drinking, watching movies, etc. Plus the church itself (even though maybe not the members as it was a small church) were a little too charasmatic, (i.e. fanatical) and somehow the message of GOD IS LOVE was lost. The speaking in tongues … the relying on emotions instead of true love of God was what made discouraged us from becoming members. I was blessed to have learn true Christianity during Sunday School as there was no church dogma … it was all about the Bible (no going to hell stuff)and God’s Love for everyone.

    Moving out of Texas and going to the East Coast to college is probably what helped me not be poison by the non Christ Like attitude of some so-called Christians who are Pentecosstal/Evangelical. By my senior in college, I knew God NEVER creates mistakes and by that time I decided to be true to myself. I first came out to my friends and eventually my family and have been happier than ever. I attended a fairly liberal church in LA and enjoy life by the beach.

    I thank you for coming out and giving messages of HOPE and LOVE OF GOD to everyone, especially the young people.

    I truly believe your uncle’s spirit has been with you more often than as he is now with God and wants the true message of His Love to everyone to be spread.

    Much Love & Light!

  • Phil

    Thanks, Randy. I too was a student at ORU in the 90′s and I am a gay man. Thank you…

  • scotty

    POWERFUL!!! thanks sooo much for sharing your life’s story. it’s sure to be a great benefit to many others struggling with their sexuality and spirituality. we all have our stories, each to varying degrees. but you’ve written yours in such a heart-felt way, with such raw honesty, that my heart goes out to you. yours is a POWERFUL life’s story!!!

    it took me a long time, way too long of a time, to understand such a simple basic truth: i am gay. and it took me a long time, way too long of a time, to understand another simple basic truth: god is love.

    but i DID learn it. and it was a very interesting journey (including a two year stint at a different bible college in tulsa. lol). and i learned it at the right time for me. and i am sooo glad that i did!!! god doesn’t ever make any mistakes!!!

    we all have to remember to look back to that 13 year old self that we still all have inside of us and appreciate the fact that “it gets better” each and every day. every experience that we have each and every day, the good stuff and the tough stuff, adds to who we are becoming. and we never stop becoming more of who we are!!!

    something GOOD is GOING to HAPPEN to YOU! and to all of us.

    love ya bro,
    scotty

  • Mitchel

    Randy,
    I was also a student at ORU from 73-77, sang on your grandfather’s TV show, knew your uncle Ronnie, your parents, your aunt Linda and the whole family. I was there when Rebecca and her husband were killed in the plane crash and remember the stories about Ronnie and how he was not a
    “believer”. I always felt sorry for him. I was also a gay man and lived in silence and fear of being “outed” at ORU. I saw two of the most talented young men (on Orals TV show) outed for being gay and given 24 hours to leave the campus. It was devastating for me. Thank you SO much for sharing your life, your journey, your pain and your enlightenment with all of us! Obviously, something Great has is happening to you!

  • Jeff

    Our mutual friend Keith Griffin shared the link to this article with me, and I’m so very glad he did. As a kid growing up in Oklahoma in the 60′s and 70′s, I’ve always had a very negative, one-dimensional opinion of your grandfather, but this moving account really causes me to reflect on how much more complex, and touching, the whole truth usually is. Thank you for letting something GOOD happen to ME today through your writing.

  • Mary

    Randy, Your story really struck me. To have a grandfather who never spoke to your or expressed any affection, it’s hard to comprehend what that does to one’s soul. Not to mention what you struggled with in regards to your sexual orientation. From the tone of the story and to hear you tell it on “The Story” radio show I think you are indeed a gentle soul. I want to say that I am sorry you had to live through what you did. I type this with tears in my eyes. I think what’s making me tear up is the absence of love and acceptance you and other people have had to live through as children. I’ve lived through similar. It seems you’ve been able to make it through and be a positive person. I am happy for that.

  • Brent M

    I was one of your Uncle Ron’s students at Booker T. He was probably the most brilliant, gentle and giving person I have ever met.

  • Brad Palmer

    My family was not in nearly as publicly as yours but they were very active in church, my grandparents held your grandfather in high esteem. So very much of your story sounds like my story. Thank you very much for telling it!

  • Colleen Rinehart

    Randy, I don’t know if you will remember me. You used to come and swim in that pool with the big blown up cover on it in Denver and I think you were afraid of it. I know Steven was. Irv died 3 years ago, but I’m living in Tulsa now. I appreciated your story and am glad you’re able to help raise your children.
    Not all evangelical folks share the views you expressed.
    I know your folks are hurting and am sure you’d like to have that relationship restored too. God is, above everything else, a God of love and restoration. That is what I pray for you and you folks.

  • Conner Fields

    Very Touching. I cried at the end.

  • joshua

    Great story from Randy…illustrates the hypocracy of religious fanatics…of any ilk. Clothe it anyway you want, its control and fear based.

  • Joe Price

    Wow

  • belle

    God’s Wrath on Unrighteousness

    Romans 1

    18 For
    the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and
    unrighteousness of men, who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth.
    19 For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. 20 For
    his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature,
    have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in
    the things that have been made. So they are without excuse. 21 For
    although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to
    him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts
    were darkened. 22 Claiming to be wise, they became fools, 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man and birds and animals and creeping things.

    24 Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves, 25 because
    they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served
    the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen.

    26 For
    this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women
    exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; 27 and
    the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed
    with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men
    and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.

    28 And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done. 29 They
    were filled with all manner of unrighteousness, evil, covetousness,
    malice. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, maliciousness.
    They are gossips, 30 slanderers, haters of God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, 31 foolish, faithless, heartless, ruthless. 32 Though
    they know God’s decree that those who practice such things deserve to
    die, they not only do them but give approval to those who practice them.

    Clearly homosexuality is a sin and unnatural! You can be delivered from it just like any other sin! Praying for you!

  • Anonymous

    Very nice… Love the way you phrased your words to bring the honestly of your story.

  • Anonymous

    Amen bro

  • Anonymous

    Blah Blah Blah… Really?

  • Michael

    Nat – Good Call…

    Ren,

    Most of us would never claim to know God’s plan, much less the plan of the devil’s.  As far as I’m concerned God made all of us, and last time I checked, he hadn’t made any mistakes.  Being Gay is a part of Gods plan as far as I’m concerned, for reasons I don’t pretend to understand.

    As for your suggestion that Randy read the Bible… Seriously…?!!!  I’m willing to bet that he’s read it more times that can be counted, and knows it’s contents better than most of us…  Surely if you’re going to come up with an argument, you can do better than that…

    It might be more beneficial to the world if you stopped praying for Randy, and started praying for your own soul, at least as far as asking God to give you the compassion you’re obviously lacking.

  • Daddybear1961

    typical brain washed response. Guess you didn’t actually read what Randy had written, you only felt that this was your chance to try to brainwash others as you have been brainwashed. I’m sorry but I think it’s you soul that truly needs the praying for.

  • Bizzymom38

    Wow, your courage is wonderful and amazing.  I grew up in a very religious home, learning that Homosexuality was a HUGE sin and a no-no and a straight shot to hell….. then I got married, and was the first in MY family to divorce, but the church gave me all the ‘right’ responses to why I had to divorce etc… etc… and I raised my daughter alone until she was 4 when I remarried… we had a normal family, or whatever passes for normal…. she grew up, went to college, and it was that first year of college that she slipped…. she accidentally told me she was gay…. we cried together, I told her I loved her no matter what and we went on…. Her daddy…. (step-daddy)  isn’t so accepting…. he keeps thinking that she will change her mind, and become NORMAL…. whatever that is now days…. My dad, her grandpa, who practically raised her from the time she was born till she was 4 and I remarried, that wonderful Christian example has totally cut her out of his life because she was born different…. I am saddened… but hold the hand of my daughter and her partner and pray every day that others can learn to love unconditionally…. 
    Thank  you for helping and sharing your story…

    hugs

    Susan

  • Pimento45

    Try reading “The Shack” by Paul YOUNG / “New Kind of Christianity” by Brian McLaren or this trilogy starting with “A New Kind of Christian”. Thinnking out of the box.

  • Pimento45

    Randy,
    Thank you for sharing.
    As your uncle Ronnie, I was also born in 1945 and went thru similar struggles.
    Now, when I counsel young LGBT persons, I tell them, the sooner you come out the better. 

  • Roooob

    Bah, everyone lives a sinful lifestyle. Dont feed people that nonsense.

  • Daswc3

    Its like any other struggle or hardship or Tribulation  that a person has to endure. Jesus says he gave us the strength to Overcome. God’s word doesn’t change because we have a difficult time obeying it. I have a struggle as an African American woman enduring the crap I have to take in “white”America. My  neighbor struggles with images of death, destruction and murder from his army experience. My 19 year old neighbor accidentally drowned her baby in the bath tub….Struggles Not to “give up”, just start shooting, suicide….
    Jesus is the  ‘balm’
     and the answer to every weakness.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/DJRVGKGG36KNLNMZAVT4EXOF3M Ed-words

    Someone has come along since the last comment here,
    and her name is Jessica Ahlquist!

    You accept gays? Then why not atheists?

  • Stopbeingsogay

    right on!

  • Annony-Mouse

    I was never a fan of Brother Oral growing up, though I certainly knew members of his family and even got to meet him on one occasion.

    Thank you for giving me a different perspective on the man.  It’s certainly something to learn from.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/22TKELMWZADEVBXQWYKOPAORFA deborah

    Randy, I can hardly type, tears fill my eyes … I know the message of your Heart and Soul consist of the agony of not being Accepted and Loved  for who yourself ..But the the transparentcy of your words, bare the wounds, of the same Jesus we know . I don’t want to sound like I’m preaching and  just  “QUOTE SCRIPTURE ”  at YOU,  as My family did AND your family has done  your whole life … But You have been a ” Man of Sorrows aquainted with Grief”  Caring enough, then, as well as,  share  Your Loving & Wounded Heart, with the World …  As I wrote to you before ( day ago or so ) I am a silver haired Grandmother who is straight . NOT SAYING THAT IN ANYWAY  OTHER WAY  THAN TO HOPE MY SINCERE WORDS BRING YOU COMFORT IN A DIFFERENT WAY … Hope that makes sense ???    Lovingly Debbie

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